# Jordan 4 sizing: TTS, or half up because the toe box crushes your pinky toes? **URL:** \ **Category:** Sizing & Fit\ **Tags:** question\ **Created:** [October 20, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193 "2026-10-20T21:01:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![beaterbudget\_07](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/beaterbudget_07/32/277_2.png) [@beaterbudget\_07](https://superreps.net/u/beaterbudget_07)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/1 "2026-10-20T21:01:20Z")
Jordan 4 sizing threads are a battlefield. One comment says “TTS, who told you to size up?”, the next says “half up or your pinky toes are done”. Owners compare notes on this in [Jordan 1 Low sizing](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-1-low-sizing-true-to-size-or-half-down-insole-numbers-explained/76). Who’s right? ⚔ Related threads: [Jordan 4 on feet](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-on-feet-jeans-cargos-or-shorts-and-how-the-toe-box-looks-once-worn/280), [the thread on Yeezy 350 V2 reps](https://superreps.net/t/yeezy-350-v2-reps-is-half-a-size-up-still-the-rule-or-do-some-batches-fit-tts-now/171) and [the thread on Dunk Low sizing](https://superreps.net/t/dunk-low-sizing-same-as-your-jordan-1-or-half-down-and-do-sb-dunks-fit-differently/278). ---
**Author:** ![halfsize\_up](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/halfsize_up/32/298_2.png) [@halfsize\_up](https://superreps.net/u/halfsize_up)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/2 "2026-10-20T21:01:26Z")
Both, for different feet! **Shape:** the J4 has a fairly firm toe box and a structured upper. It doesn’t give much. **Common advice:** TTS for normal or narrow feet, half up for wide feet. **Batch footnote:** several people report specific J4 batches, GX among them, feeling snug in the toe box at their usual size. Others say the same batch felt roomy. Feet differ. ---
**Author:** ![passform\_profi](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/passform_profi/32/281_2.png) [@passform\_profi](https://superreps.net/u/passform_profi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/3 "2026-10-20T21:01:30Z")
Important: a lot of people mix up length and width. If your toes don’t hit the front but it pinches at the sides, that’s a **width problem**. Half a size up helps a bit then, but not just because of the length. ---
**Author:** ![beaterbudget\_07](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/beaterbudget_07/32/277_2.png) [@beaterbudget\_07](https://superreps.net/u/beaterbudget_07)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/4 "2026-10-20T21:01:32Z")
Ok but if it’s tight, can’t you just wear it in? Like boss fight, eventually you win. ---
**Author:** ![sohlenfluesterer](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/sohlenfluesterer/32/270_2.png) [@sohlenfluesterer](https://superreps.net/u/sohlenfluesterer)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/5 "2026-10-20T21:01:42Z")
Up to a point. Leather stretches a little in width, but the J4 has a lot of reinforced parts. One thread mentioned a cobbler stretching the shoe on a last. It helped “a bit”. I wouldn’t count on it. ---
**Author:** ![stitch\_auditor](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/stitch_auditor/32/301_2.png) [@stitch\_auditor](https://superreps.net/u/stitch_auditor)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/6 "2026-10-20T21:01:47Z")
Another source of confusion: sizes. Several threads point out that many factories label in EU sizes, and the EU-to-US conversion isn’t identical across brands. Always check which number is the real one on the size tag. ---
**Author:** ![freshlaces](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/freshlaces/32/303_2.png) [@freshlaces](https://superreps.net/u/freshlaces)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:01pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/7 "2026-10-20T21:01:53Z")
And insole measurements? Someone in a thread said comparing them to your retail pair was “meaningless”. ---
**Author:** ![halfsize\_up](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/halfsize_up/32/298_2.png) [@halfsize\_up](https://superreps.net/u/halfsize_up)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:04pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/8 "2026-10-20T21:04:59Z")
Not meaningless, just incomplete. Insole length says nothing about toe box height or width, which is exactly where J4s pinch. Use it as one data point. ---
**Author:** ![passform\_profi](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/passform_profi/32/281_2.png) [@passform\_profi](https://superreps.net/u/passform_profi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/9 "2026-10-20T21:05:03Z")
Summed up so you can decide straight away: **1. Measure your feet:** length **and** width in cm, in the evening, both feet. **2. Starting point:** | Foot | Advice from the threads | | --- | --- | | narrow/normal | TTS | | wide | ½ up | | very wide | ½ up, and honestly check whether the J4 suits you at all | **3. Factor in the batch:** read the latest user reports on that specific batch. Some are described as tight in the toe area. **4. Check the size tag:** read the EU size on the tag, not just the US size in the listing text. **5. QC photos:** ask for a top-down view of both shoes and a side view to see toe box height and width. [[PHOTO: top-down view of a pair of Jordan 4s showing toe box width at the widest point]] **6. Don’t count on stretching.** Leather gives a little, the reinforced parts barely at all. In short: normal feet TTS, wide feet ½ up, and always read the batch reports. ---
**Author:** ![beaterbudget\_07](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/beaterbudget_07/32/277_2.png) [@beaterbudget\_07](https://superreps.net/u/beaterbudget_07)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/10 "2026-10-20T21:05:09Z")
Clean answer. Value score 5/5, marking it. Boss fight avoided. 🎮 ---
**Author:** ![halfsize\_up](https://superreps.net/user_avatar/superreps.net/halfsize_up/32/298_2.png) [@halfsize\_up](https://superreps.net/u/halfsize_up)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://superreps.net/t/jordan-4-sizing-tts-or-half-up-because-the-toe-box-crushes-your-pinky-toes/193/11 "2026-10-20T21:05:39Z")
And a tip for comparing: the J1 is a good reference for length, but the J4 is narrower up front. If your J1 size is already snug, go half up on J4s.